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Speeches by The Hon RJL Hawke AC

OECD International Forum for the Future

 

Hanover, 24-25 March 2000

 

The Hon R J L Hawke's concluding contribution to the OECD International Futures Programme's Forum for the Future in Hanover 24-25 March 2000

The conference has been a most useful exercise in attempting to come to grips with understanding the issues and challenges of governance in the 21st Century.

At the outset - I know I speak for all present - participants and observers - in thanking those who prepared and spoke to the conference papers, the various participants for their interventions, NORD/LB for their splendid organisation, hospitality and support, and the OECD staff and yourself, Mr Chairman, for the contribution that each has made.

I am not going to attempt to summarise the whole conference - for two reasons:

It would require much greater time to consider and absorb the conference's many messages;
Such a summary will undoubtedly be provided in due course by Wolfgang Michalski and his staff.
Rather, I have been asked, and am happy to give, some personal comments and reactions to the discussion, debate and subject matter that we have been covering in the past one and a half days. I hope to be less than half an hour.

While I am the product of several universities, I think that academia has already been more than adequately represented, so I will tend to speak more from the perspective of an old, i.e. experienced, politician who has had some direct involvement in the problems and challenges of governance.

I deal with a number of points.

First, the discussion reinforced one's prior perception of the vital role of capital in any consideration of governance in 21st Century.

How will we handle the increased global mobility of capital from one jurisdiction to another? Will this lead to a "race to the bottom" in environmental, social and other situations, to a widening of economic inequalities, to a plutocracy rather than a democracy, as Martin Albrow asked yesterday?

The indisputable fact is that this enhanced mobility can undermine the capacity of governments to do their job of organising effective governance either by themselves, by market forces, or by the civil society.

A loss of tax base diminishes the capacity of governments to provide services reasonably expected to be provided by their citizens.

Income distribution is shifting towards capital and away from labour; the distribution of capital is skewed and concentrated, so that the income tax base is more unequally distributed nationally and globally - and the tax rates that can be applied may be low, because of competition between governments, and the capacity of those with wealth to organise their affairs to minimise tax.

As a practical matter, the threat of loss or serious erosion of the tax base is as difficult as it gets in terms of providing good governance; not just the practical question of the capacity of the government to provide services, but the very stability and workable cohesion of society can be put in question.

How to handle this problem in an equitable and efficient way will be one of the most important questions in the 21st Century.

We are all aware of proposals that have been advanced which go to or impinge upon this question - for example, the Tobin tax on short-term movements of capital, and the idea of a harmonised tax regime on profits levied in the places where profits are made.

Of course, there are always arguments that can be raised about loopholes in the tax net that may act as serious impediments to the introduction of such proposals.

I am not arguing for any particular proposal. What I am saying is that what is required is effective international co-operation - global governance - if the crisis is to be properly dealt with.

It requires what Perri 6 described as "a coalition of the willing" covering sufficient of the major economic players to make the regulation and contribution of capital be effective.

If this is not done, good governance in the broadest sense will be severely constrained.

The discussions have also been Eurocentric.
Issues of good governance in the 21st Century, particularly as they can potentially affect the peace of the world, will require much more attention to Asia, Africa and South America than has been given over the last one and a half days.

In this context, and especially in the case of Asia, I would go to the dangers of gratuitous intervention in the governance of others. The United States presently suffers about 40,000 deaths annually from guns in large measure attributable to the refusal of legislators to stand up to the gun lobby. These same legislators preach at China about its denial of the sanctity of human rights and threaten retaliatory action in the field of trade. What would be the reaction if China were to propose an international embargo on US exports until the laws in the United States were changed to reduce the availability of guns to citizens, thereby calling a halt to this slaughter?

Being less interventionist in the governance of foreign countries doesn't mean abandoning the values that we regard as important - but it does raise questions about the sensible handling of those issues in our international relationships.

A new shape of power and population is likely to emerge in the 21st Century, with China and India, Brazil, and later Indonesia, coming to the fore.

We cannot expect, in terms of global governance, a continued cosy divvying-up of World Bank and IMF posts between the US and Europe. It is gratifying and appropriate that the US and Europe have now had to let New Zealand and Thailand split up the top position at the WTO. I hope this is a situation that Europe and the US will become more used to.

This leads me into what I regard as a most surprising omission in the discussion at the conference: population issues.

As background, in 1900 there were 1.7 billion people in the world; in 1962 there were 3.4 billion; and in 2000 there are 6.2 billion.

These population changes in the 20th Century, and further changes in the 21st Century are going to have a major impact on governance in the 21st Century.

We can see this already in pressures on the global environment - inevitably leading to pressures for more effective international co-operation in governance on these issues.

But the population shifts will also put pressure on relations between N/S countries as population-significant countries grow economically relative to population poor and population-declining countries (which include the European and European-derived countries - as well as Japan).

What immigration regimes are going to be adopted? What social policies to increase fertility? Major issues such as these were given no consideration. The relevant issues are not just those of aged care, but broader questions of attitudes to immigrants, and - in considering the possibilities of higher birthrates - much more consideration and attention to the life desires of women relative to men.

Good governance in the 21st Century will require a greater role by business, and corresponding adoption by business of responsible codes of conduct as corporations and individuals.

Ted Turner was mentioned in the discussion. I would like to mention an Australian, Jac Nasser, the head of the Ford motor Company in Detroit, a company that employs 400,000 people worldwide. Nasser has ordered that a personal computer be provided in the house of every employee. In this way, Nasser clearly hopes that his employees will maximise their chances of full participation in the 21st Century as citizens, and in particular that there will be increased opportunity for the education of their children.

The question of politicians leading or following was raised during the discussion. My own experience in 1983 was that tough decisions were needed on macro-economic policy, tariff reductions, and the asset test on government pensions.

As a government we were better placed to make those tough decisions by sharing information with our citizens which we did at the outset by convening a National Economic Summit where all major interest groups - all levels of government, business, unions, welfare organisations and churches - were represented.

There is also a discernible tendency for a mutually reinforcing hypocrisy to develop between citizens and politicians, in which the citizens demand the unachievable and the politicians promise to provide it.

There is also the danger of "decibel democracy", in which the loudest voices drown out what may be much more reasoned, quieter voices. President Clinton succumbed to this phenomenon in April last year when he foolishly humiliated Chinese Premier Zhu Rongji's reasonable proposals regarding China's entry to the WTO.

Finally, let me repeat what I said yesterday, that the ultimate aim of good governance must be the provision of peace. This requires effective international co-operation.

In the 20th Century we were not very good - in fact, we were abysmal - at meeting this requirement. We must do better in 21st Century.

I will conclude by repeating my thanks to all involved in the conference, particularly on behalf of the three Australians who participated as the only representatives of all the people of the world South of the equator.

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